It doesn't speak very highly of our educational system or the PhDs that are promoting it. They probably believe in perpetual motion as well and are working feverishly on it.
The concept of sucking the entire atmosphere of the planet and removing the carbon, methane and other gases with fans is one of the biggest propaganda spiels ever contrived, and is being promoted by the scientific community. Doesn't give me much faith in science or engineering.
The impossibility of it is high school physics and yet it's being pursued at a cost of billions of dollars (for short term profit) by government and corporations the same as fusion energy which is always 20 years away. The planet was doomed 60 years ago given the path chosen at that time and continually made worse by the economic system and out of control population growth. Intelligent and realistic people knew then but were overruled by profiteering.
The bottom line (which is what everything has run on till now) are the ones making the decisions who know they will all be dead when collapse comes so it doesn't matter to them. They also have the option of retreat to their "bunkers" to go insane after a year living underground. I wonder if they have a game in the billionaire club of "the last one standing".
Maybe the earth is flat and I just need a bigger pair of binoculars to prove it to myself. Wonder when we'll cut a hole in the dome over our the earth to let all the carbon dioxide out? It'll be way cheaper than fans.
We have a childlike FAITH in Technology. Most Americans BELIEVE with all their hearts that once a problem becomes profitable to solve, a solution will be found. Their catechism is that "resources may be limited but human ingenuity is limitless".
People, and industries, LOVE this idea. It allows them to "have their cake and eat it too". Since the consequences for our actions today, will be easily and cheaply solved in the FUTURE, through the "miracle" of TECHNOLOGY.
It's not a really a "rational" position, which is why you cannot change people's minds. It's a FAITH, just like faith in G-d. People simply BELIEVE that if we need something bad enough, someone will solve the problem.
So, spending money and taking actions to "save" the future is just stupid. The FUTURE doesn't need us to take care of it, the future will take care of itself.
I think it ultimately always goes back to the common perception that we still have 40 or 50 years before climate change "gets serious". People who don't follow climate science closely have NO CLUE what's going on.
Don't worry, AI will invent magical new technologies like scalable fusion, autonomous worker robots, new kinds of materials, and all of these issues will disappear.
I do accept your points, but as I covered in a recent Substack article of my own, the maths say we simply can't avoid CCS or (worse still from an energy perspective) Direct Air Capture. It would be wonderful if planting trees could get us out of this mess, but it's gone too far, it's too big a problem for nature to solve in anything like a human relevant timescale. We should absolutely plant trees but for ecological reasons and be grateful for the slight carbon co-benefit.
Nature will of course recover the situation eventually, just like it did after the end-Permian when CO2 levels shot up due to volcanism, OK, hundreds of times slower than we are pumping it out, and it did take 8 millions years for biodiversity to recover, but it did and it will again.
When it comes to a liveable long term future for humanity, if there is no techno-hope, there is no hope at all.
It doesn't speak very highly of our educational system or the PhDs that are promoting it. They probably believe in perpetual motion as well and are working feverishly on it.
The concept of sucking the entire atmosphere of the planet and removing the carbon, methane and other gases with fans is one of the biggest propaganda spiels ever contrived, and is being promoted by the scientific community. Doesn't give me much faith in science or engineering.
The impossibility of it is high school physics and yet it's being pursued at a cost of billions of dollars (for short term profit) by government and corporations the same as fusion energy which is always 20 years away. The planet was doomed 60 years ago given the path chosen at that time and continually made worse by the economic system and out of control population growth. Intelligent and realistic people knew then but were overruled by profiteering.
The bottom line (which is what everything has run on till now) are the ones making the decisions who know they will all be dead when collapse comes so it doesn't matter to them. They also have the option of retreat to their "bunkers" to go insane after a year living underground. I wonder if they have a game in the billionaire club of "the last one standing".
Maybe the earth is flat and I just need a bigger pair of binoculars to prove it to myself. Wonder when we'll cut a hole in the dome over our the earth to let all the carbon dioxide out? It'll be way cheaper than fans.
We have a childlike FAITH in Technology. Most Americans BELIEVE with all their hearts that once a problem becomes profitable to solve, a solution will be found. Their catechism is that "resources may be limited but human ingenuity is limitless".
People, and industries, LOVE this idea. It allows them to "have their cake and eat it too". Since the consequences for our actions today, will be easily and cheaply solved in the FUTURE, through the "miracle" of TECHNOLOGY.
It's not a really a "rational" position, which is why you cannot change people's minds. It's a FAITH, just like faith in G-d. People simply BELIEVE that if we need something bad enough, someone will solve the problem.
So, spending money and taking actions to "save" the future is just stupid. The FUTURE doesn't need us to take care of it, the future will take care of itself.
I think it ultimately always goes back to the common perception that we still have 40 or 50 years before climate change "gets serious". People who don't follow climate science closely have NO CLUE what's going on.
Don't worry, AI will invent magical new technologies like scalable fusion, autonomous worker robots, new kinds of materials, and all of these issues will disappear.
Now Sarah, what would lead you to believe that the fossil fuel industry would ever deceive us this way?
I do accept your points, but as I covered in a recent Substack article of my own, the maths say we simply can't avoid CCS or (worse still from an energy perspective) Direct Air Capture. It would be wonderful if planting trees could get us out of this mess, but it's gone too far, it's too big a problem for nature to solve in anything like a human relevant timescale. We should absolutely plant trees but for ecological reasons and be grateful for the slight carbon co-benefit.
Nature will of course recover the situation eventually, just like it did after the end-Permian when CO2 levels shot up due to volcanism, OK, hundreds of times slower than we are pumping it out, and it did take 8 millions years for biodiversity to recover, but it did and it will again.
When it comes to a liveable long term future for humanity, if there is no techno-hope, there is no hope at all.
https://drtomharris.substack.com/p/the-case-for-carbon-dioxide-removal
And whales!