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Toma's avatar

Off the cuff? Don't be so modest.

For roughly 60 years the fossil fuels companies have known about the impact of fossil fuels on the environment based on their own studies and predictions, kept it hidden, did nothing to mitigate the predictions, and now we are supposed to believe a new study that they did? And we have an utter fool in the "stable genius" POTUS who fully supports them and doesn't believe in climate change.

The scenario(s) and solutions they propose in the study will necessarily require a a major increase in fossil fuels usage over the next 20 years to achieve, and in the end will never work. It seems we have scientists and engineers who have somehow forgotten basic fundamentals of engineering or are willfully ignoring them. Lying is the best way to a promotion and raise. Or at least job security. Truth is an automatic Pink slip.

Carbon capture is like nuclear fusion, only 20 years away (for the last 60 years). Do these researchers actually believe that the entire atmosphere of the planet can be sucked through a device that will remove the carbon and then somehow store it out of harms way?

"Fixing Climate" was written in 2008 and proposed this as a solution. It could have been written by "The Onion" as a satire. Wouldn't even make it as a good sci Fi novel. Dune was better.

Then the "end solution" is to convert to an all electric society. The current electric grid is already teetering on the brink of failure due to a failing infrastructure from lack of upgrades and increasing demand. Optimistically, correcting this will take a trillion dollars and 10 to 20 years. The entire grid will need to be redesigned to accommodate green energy. Then the storage requirements (batteries) will need to be replaced every 5 to 10 years (optimistically). The manpower alone to replace batteries, transport and recycle them staggers the imagination. The "end solution" is a complete joke from start to finish.

The final question is what is the real plan? Are these people fools enough to believe what they are saying? "Experts agree. Everything is fine. " Could they be misleading the population? Somehow the predictions of "collapse" all end in the convenient year of 2100. It's a nice number. 25 years away. If it were adjusted to 2035 people might actually get excited about it. As long as it's kept to where most people won't live long enough to see, what's the worry? "75 years in the future? - I'm worried about eating tomorrow." The collapse will begin much sooner than the end of the century. It's already begun.

It's rather obvious (at least to me) how much our "leadership" regards the people they are leading. At best slaves, at worst animals to use and discard at will.

Another manufacturing revolution started in the 80s with the advent of computer tech. It has eliminated vast numbers of jobs, decreased wages and increased profits and productivity which has resulted in the situation we now find ourselves in. Ecocide, poverty increased fossil fuels usage, meaningless non thinking

Jobs, lack of employment and the destruction of the world in short. We were promised a paradise of 20 hour workweek, and an abundance of our desires. Instead we have poverty wages, homelessness, reliance on the welfare state and increased work hours. With the introduction of artificial "intelligence" (read theft of human endeavors) we are being promised more of the same. Workers are already little more than robots.

Robots are now capable of taking over most work from humans and begining to replace them. Is the next technical revolution to eliminate humans?

What is the real purpose of AI? It's certainly not to do a quick search on Google or your homework in third grade. The construction of the number of AI facilities alone will expand peak electricity usage decades into the future.

Hitler didn't have the option of robots for a society of a 'master race". If the mundane task humans now do are replaced with robots and humans are eliminated would that result in the CO2 reduction necessary for preventing climate change?

A sustainable world population without advanced technology is approximately 1 to 2 billion people. We are currently 4 to 8 times over that and it's still increasing exponentially. It cannot continue. A societal collapse is inevitable. War, famine, disease were enough to maintain a stable population before technology but no more. The population explosion problem was known in 1960 and it has now far exceeded the capacity of the planet.

You only need ask one fundamental question - would the master race be happy controlling robots or do they need humans to torture physically and mentally for their sadistic pleasure?

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Bruce Maslack's avatar

The graphic depictions are truly “artful.” In addition to the fantasy about peak fossil fuel use that you have well documented, the global mean surface temperature graph ignores completely the “anomalous” data from 2023 (and does it include 2024? I don’t think so) drawing lines for their temperature increases scenarios starting from some sort of “average,” well below these measurements to smooth away these 2 years from their curve. So we are NOT having acceleration of global warming after all. They must have proven the most recent report of James Hansen, et al, as entirely wrong!

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